Wednesday, July 24, 2013

Detroit’s demographics, the hookup-culture scare, and more anti-Western Western hipsterdox


  • It’s not inevitable that a black-run city will fall apart. Atlanta has had black mayors for exactly as long as Detroit. Yet — at least so far — Atlanta’s black Democratic rulers have done a decent job of working with Georgia’s white Republican rulers to not kill the white geese who lay the corporate golden eggs. The lesson is that a black-dominated city has a much narrower margin for error. By George, Sailer’s got it. HBD’s the 500-lb. gorilla in the room of this story. Lots of things caused Detroit’s failure, such as one-party Democratic rule and its inevitable economic ruin, greedy unions (Michael Moore was a comfortable beneficiary of that lush system of entitlements; he is embittered that it didn’t continue even though it was doomed from the start by its spendthrift impracticality), and better foreign cars. But what’s a conservative, someone who doesn’t pretend not to Notice Things, to do or say in order to be decent and fair? (Real equal opportunity that keeps race out of it, not forced, fake equal outcomes, which caused the mortgage bubble and collapse.) Neither the sickle nor the swastika, neither the Narrative’s denial (Orwellian as Roissy says: observation is illusion), however well meant, nor determinism (‘It’s inevitable that a black-run city will fall apart’), which would really be racist. The Narrative, the Cathedral (a Christian heresy in which Nice White Ladies rule the world), calls Sailer’s Noticing Things and answer racist but they’re not. Just fact. ‘On average.’ A factor. Also, as Sailer notices, don’t listen to the leftoids. Watch what they do. They’re good at segregation, then sit and watch their proxies decimate the prole whites they hate. They want to turn downtown into their playground and wish conservatives would help them ethnically cleanse (disarm) it once the prole whites are out of the picture. And: ‘I am a man’; like everybody else, blacks are partly responsible, as adults, for their problems.
  • From Joshua: Hookup-culture scare. Or millennials are actually on average pretty normal; was Sunshine Mary trolled? Take o tempora culture-wars bait with a grain of salt.
  • Hipsterdoxy. Here. Me.

14 comments:

  1. I see this very differently.

    I look at this and see young people behaving like young people everywhere: quirky, impulsive and tribal. It's only a problem for puritanical Marxists when white middle-class kids do it.

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    1. Good call. Sounds like the young people I see in real life.

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    2. I don't see the Catholic Church as particularly "Western" from this point forward.

      Specifically, it is becoming a Central and South American Church, and its "Western" priorities seem to be making sure African and Middle Eastern Muslims feel free to populate the West.

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    3. Riiiiight. Tell that to the 60 million American Catholics...and counting.

      You can say stuff like this when your own communion provides an effective bulwark against encroaching Islam. Till then...good grief...do you not see the irony??

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    4. The Eastern Christians were tragically outnumbered. The Fourth Crusade certainly didn't help matters.

      +Francis's first trip outside the Vatican was to welcome Muslims to Catholic homelands, including the host nation of his own See. The Europe of Hillaire Belloc is very far from +Francis's mind.

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    5. The majority of blacks in sub-Saharan Africa, who make the greatest part of the African refugees on Lampedusa island (the place Pope Francis was) are Christian. Spin the pendulum the other way. The majority of refugees are Blacks who suffer Islamic terrorism. In ancient times there were thousands of Black slaves in Rome. They mixed with the reigning Roman culture and eventually we all forgot that they existed. The same will happen with these Negroes. They will mix with the White population - leaving Italians and Frenchmen with a little darker skin color.

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  2. The Eastern Christians were tragically outnumbered. The Fourth Crusade certainly didn't help matters.

    Youse guys have an excuse for everything, don't you? ;)

    What about: "Better the Sultan's turban than the pope's tiara"? Are there no warts in Orthodoxy? Sheesh. I'm no huge fan of Father Taft, but IMHO he gets it right when he says that the Orthodox are utterly incapable of self-criticism.

    The Europe of Hillaire Belloc is very far from +Francis's mind.

    Well, y'know, Catholic = universal. Not just Western European.

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    1. Re: you posts above and below! *smile*

      I would cut the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople some slack. The office and office-holder has been screwed royally since the late 15th Century. Just look at the history of how the current state of Orthodoxy in Turkey got that way! See Steven Runciman's "The Great Church in Captivity." It will make you weep! And to think that great wonder of the world, the Hagia Sophia, was turned into a mosque and now into a museum!

      Those darned Normans! LOL I am kinda mad at them too! I had Aristotle's lost book on comedy on hold at the library awaiting my pick-up, but those Frenchies (OK, not necessarily French!) wrecked the library! At least the Pope excommunicated them for trashing Constantinople, not that this meant much. One thing to remember, the Byzantines were double-timing the Crusaders by dealing with them and then dealing with the Turkish hordes. I think it's called realpolitik! Nonetheless, I understand why the Normans were so pissed off. :-)

      I know and recognize that Papa Francesco is Pope via the work of the Conclave and (Catholic POV) the Will of God. I also believe him to be unequivocably orthodox in the Faith. Nonetheless, I didn't particularly care for him schlepping his own luggage and some of his other hokey ways. I much prefer the Papal tiara and sedia gestatoria attitude in my Popes. And Latin! Re: being nice to the Muslims, I dunno . . . I don't favor him being polemical, but when Papa Benedetto tried to be nice to them, they and CBS News s*** all over him!

      I miss Papa Benedetto and wished he hadn't resigned the Papacy even if he was growing too old for the job (i.e., if that was the REAL reason!).

      Europe (and the rest of the West including the USA) going Godless pragmatically may provide fodder for Islam to rise in ascendancy. Perhaps this is the reason for the Church's emphasis on Catholicism in the Third World. I perceive that Muslims in the West are making babies big time and keeping their children close to them [IOW, they otherwise would make good Catholics! LOL ] And could it be that Islam in the 7th Century was God's vengeance on a divided and quarreling Christianity? How about in the 21st Century+ with a West whose mass societies have seemingly abandoned God altogether. Hmmmmmh. I think there is still room in Christian thinking for an Old Testament God . . . and to Hell with Marcion! *more LOL*

      Even though he was a controversialist, I miss Hilaire Belloc and his world view. At least he had the good sense to know G.K. Chesterton! :-)

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  3. By the way: Just wondering...how forthright is the Ecumenical Patriarch in opposing encroaching Islam? How many times has he openly condemned Muslim intolerance or Muslim extremism?

    Just curious.

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    1. His All High Holiness, "Black Bart" Bartholemew, is a virtual Prisoner of the Turks (see my previous post). The Eastern (Orthodox) Church in Turkey, or what little is left of it, is in captivity. I think the Pope should invite His All High Holiness to take up residence in St. Peter's Cathedral. As I have read or heard (?), it is the Patriarch's cathedra! The Lateran is more properly the Pope's cathedra and residence.

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  4. I've gotta read Runciman. Hubby tells me he's one of the few historians who makes you feel as if you're right there in the world and time he's describing so beautifully and powerfully.

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    1. Runciman also wrote a book on the Fall of Constantinople. I forget it's title; I never read it, but I read another book of his, "The Medieval Manichee," many years ago [re: Dualism]

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    2. "I forget it's title; I never read it."

      *The Fall of Constantinople* is its title; that, and his *The Sicilian Vespers,* are his most vivid books. He also wrote *The Eastern Schism* which has a strong pro-Orthodox "tilt." I read *The Great Church in Captivity* through twice in the 1970s.

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    3. Now I recall "The Sicilian Vespers!" It has been on my reading lists for 3 decades or so [on a paper list stored in an obscure folder in the back of my cabinet where I obviously would forget about it! :-) ] Perhaps I should resurrect my interest in Runciman and that period of European history.

      When I was in Sicily for 3 weeks with the U.S. Navy (as a Reservist on annual active duty for training) in the early 1980s, I was a member of a guided tour of Palermo. The tour guide stated that Sicily was the most invaded land in Europe. He went through all the invaders (e.g., Greeks, Muslims, Normans, French). He then stated that every invader left Sicily better than before the invasion EXCEPT the French. I don't think the locals to this very day are fond of the French! LOL

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