Advent was my home parish in the late '70s and early '80s. I still miss it.Never been to Boston. "Shrine" Anglo-Catholic churches I knew well: Good Shepherd, Rosemont (well-known A-C parish; does that count as a shrine?) and St. Clement's, Philadelphia. Also, my first full A-C experience (pre-Vatican II practice), before those two, was at non-shrine All Saints, Orange, NJ, now closed. And I've been to Ascension and St. Agnes in DC a few times 25 years ago, and to St. James the Less, Philadelphia, once, also a quarter century ago. In England: Mary Mags, Oxford, St. Alban's, Holborn, and my favorite, All Saints, North Street, York; all 20-25 years ago. Also, All Saints, Margaret Street and Pusey House but not for services; same for St. Mary's, Bainbridge Street, Philadelphia. Also been to St. Mark's, Philadelphia, long mainstreamish. Never seen Smokey Mary's in Manhattan.
Hasn't it turned aff Cath?I think so. It seems all the old shrine churches in the Episcopal Church and Church of England have. You have obscure, non-shrine holdouts like St. Paul's by the Lake, Chicago (probably given a free pass because it's black) and Fr. Steven Kelly's St. John's, Detroit (maybe not A-C but high and old-school).
I don’t think attracting and holding people is their goal. They want to wreck every last vestige of what once was good so that no one has any residual connection to civilization, family, human dignity, etc. Just all gay all the time. Concentrated evil.Nah. I think a lot of them are sincere. It’s just that their conception of the church has always been different from Catholics (and Orthodox): Articles XIX and XXI. Those and Article XXVIII are why I’m Catholic, not the new Prayer Book, women priests, or gay marriage, all only symptoms. They think the church’s trappings, from the creeds to liturgical finery (from almuces and birettas to ombrellini and zucchetti), are beautiful and fun (here they’re not like Catholic liberals) but ultimately they think the church isn’t necessary. The English government hijacked the church for its own reason so the Anglican Church only became a means of control, to keep society obedient and well-behaved. It’s not in the truth business and never was; it’s more like the IRS.