It was just a matter of time. St. Clement's IS an Episcopal church. But it's like watching someone leave the Catholic Church; wrenching, even though I wish Fr. Alton, Mother Takacs and their friends no ill. (But he's obligated by our teachings to come back.) "What would Pope St. Clement say?" And the Articles attack just about everything St. Clement's historically does; it was would-be Roman Catholic, the Episcopal Church's only such parish. Anyway, this move to theological liberalism, begun under the previous rector, has brought most of the people at St. Clement's who did so much to promote traditional Catholic liturgy, when next to nobody else in the Philadelphia area was, (back) into the Catholic Church, where they are now Holy Trinity Traditional Latin Mass Community, "St. Clement's, Jr." The Episcopalians enforce their teachings and get their building back; we get another Tridentine Mass, St. Clement's Catholic destiny after all. Win-win.
And jumping the Tiber is not the solution.It makes perfect sense given what St. Clement's used to profess and since Pope Benedict made the local church hospitable. We're not bucking Protestant Articles and our teachings aren't subject to change by General Convention vote.
Jumping the Tiber sure worked for me and I am very happy! What solution would you propose? Western Rite Orthodoxy: the Orthodox don't really want you as you are. The Continuum: sectarian; same problems as vagantes. Vagantes: really? Remain Episcopal and hope the semi-congregationalism still protects you (Keble: the last bastion of the Church of England will be my parish): don't count on that.
"Unless you want a congregational organized polity there isn't much left of organized Protestantism that isn't unraveling or splitting into a thousand fragments."
And so is Rome.Not per se, vs. in practice. I'm the last person to claim life in the Catholic Church is perfect. In '80s and '90s America, if you were a traditionalist, it sucked. But there's only one church.
I never said I had the perfect solution. No one does. Enjoy Rome until they turn on you. Even if you completely compromise they can turn on you. But that's when one holds to Faith, Hope, and Compromise.If "they" turn on me, I'll keep my head down, my mouth shut, my nose in my missal, and my hands on my rosary. I'm not there for social or business reasons. As things are, I don't tell the priests how to run the parish. If "they" REALLY turn on me as in turn heretical (Catholic Defcon 2 or 1), I've got the SSPX a short drive away. No SSPX or available priest? Bible, catechism, rosary, office, and God's love and mercy.
A priest: I had a severely bumpy road in the Pastoral Provision process. We called it the un-Pastoral Provision and it was a dark process at times so I do understand how painful a dysfunctional institution can be personally. However, I had a few people that believed in me and through the Blessed Virgin's intercession made it through.I think it's because the native Catholic priests are envious of the married, plus the liberal Novus Ordo doesn't want a bunch of conservative Anglo-Catholics coming in (cf. Thomas Day on American Catholics being anti-high church).
John, for me it's a question of trying to get another job at 54.I don't work for the church; I just go to Mass. The teachings are true; I don't get involved with the rest. Laid off this year at 47; I relate. Still working, by the grace of God.