Saturday, August 18, 2007

The Anglo-Catholic movement according to David Virtue
That about says it, doesn’t it? Take it as you will. Much of what he says is true including the unflattering parts.
Anglo-Catholics Face Isolation And Demonization
The real kind not the ‘Affirming’ Episcopal house style, a distinction he correctly makes.
The term "High Church" was first applied in the late seventeenth century to those individuals who were opposed to the Puritan wing of the Church of England. It is also called the "Oxford Movement."
High Church didn’t necessarily mean in the 1600s-1833 what it means now. As in the case of the Caroline divines it often went along with quasi-Catholic belief but was more to do with the authority of the church allied to the government (making this libertarian uncomfortable! ... although these arrangements are acceptable in Catholic doctrine) than doctrine let alone ceremonial (its main meaning today).

The Oxford Movement (Tractarians) mid-early C19 was a slightly different animal. For one thing it was against Erastianism, the state compromising the church! The old High Churchmen who didn’t go along with its catholicising in doctrine (and eventually in ceremonial) became today’s (or at least yesterday’s) Central Churchmen: high but Protestant.
Later, in the nineteenth century, it was applied to the Anglo-Catholic or Tractarian movement in England from 1833 going forward.
Correct — and the Tractarian movement was the Oxford Movement and began in 1833 — but Catholic and High Church still are not synonymous though they often coincide.
They harbor an inordinate number of homosexuals some of whom live celibately, but many do not. Those that do live out the lifestyle do not flaunt their homoerotic behavior...
Entirely true. Quasi-Evangelicals like Virtue, the Broad Church types, RC neocons and traditionalists, and secular gay activists think it’s hypocritical; I think that even though it’s not ideal it’s vice’s concession to the truth (even if one doesn’t live up to that truth). All part of the lesson of tolerant conservatism I learnt, a value most English, very Anglican and entirely Catholic (the church doesn’t micro-manage people like a cult).
They oppose ... (in principle) sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman.
And that, m’dears, is what saves all. Catholicism is not Donatism. As long as the faith is taught and practised the unworthiness of the minister doesn’t matter.
While some do use the Catholic Missal many also use the Anglican Missal produced by the Oxford Movement.
The Oxford Movement used the same Prayer Book services and ceremonial as everybody else. The Missals came from the third generation of Anglo-Catholics. And which ‘Catholic Missal’? A tiny minority like the Anglican Benedictines and the parish of St Saviour’s, Hoxton didn’t bother with translation and used the Missale Romanum just like the RC parishes. This kind of parish and the slightly larger circle that did Roman services in translation now use the modern RC services: mostly an English phenomenon, big in the Diocese of London for example, and unknown in the States. (What’s left of the Benedictines — not much — is ‘Affirming’.) There are a few Tridentine Anglo-Papalists using the Knott Missal (silent Canon in Latin and all) and then there are the Anglican and American missals (once the mode of American ACs and in the Continuum, mostly American, it still is — American bishops enforced Prayer Book use; many English ones gave up on that) with more Prayer Book in them.
This movement [Affirming Catholicism, that is, Broad Church dressed up] is inclusive of women to all levels of the church...
That sounds like something they themselves would say letting the clericalist cat out of the bag: ‘if you’re not clergy you’re not fully in the church’ which is nonsense. Not what Catholicism teaches. The faith is sacerdotalist; clericalism is a caricature many people mistake for the real thing.
...their views on the Book of Common Prayer (1662 or 1929) seen as out of touch with present realities.
Obviously a typo: I don’t think Virtue means the Scottish Prayer Book from 1929 but the American 1928 one. Attachment to the Prayer Book in any form is a nearly peculiarly American form of ACism (except among YFs?).

Clarence Pope again on the death of the Catholic Movement in the Episcopal Church (there are still Catholic people and places):
The culprit, in what he believes to be the death of Anglo-Catholicism, is the usurpation of powers and prerogatives by General Convention. Bishop Pope argued that over the past generation, the "vote" in General Convention had led to the triumph of "political correctness" over sound doctrine.

He also said that the vision of corporate reunion "put forth by Pope Paul VI and Archbishop Ramsey can now never be realized." The Catholic movement he said is at an end.

"General Conventions are not General Councils but they have come to behave as such," he said. "Doctrinal changes concerning holy matrimony, holy orders, and matters of sexual morality have put The Episcopal Church outside the limits of the Vincentian Canon, and marginalize everyone within it from the Catholic world."
Larger church > everything else, or if you believe as I was taught that you are only part of the church then stop acting like you’re the whole church.

(This is not misogyny.)
What has deeply and profoundly hurt and crippled Anglo-Catholics is the recent pronouncement by Pope Benedict XVI that the Roman Catholic Church is the one, true church with all others being in some form defective and their orders "invalid".
That doesn’t sound like anybody I know!

This could be Virtue’s own anti-Roman bias and is also bad reporting of what the Pope actually said. (The Pope didn’t say anything new.) He goes on to contradict this and say, correctly, that Rome recognises the orders of the Eastern churches.

Thanks to the Dutch touch (imported Old Catholic succession, recognised by Rome, from C19 schisms from Rome) there are ACs who accept Apostolicæ Curæ but hold that it’s now irrelevant.

ACs like the Orthodox understand and respect what the Pope said.

The Anglican Use is a bait-and-switch: mainstream RCs don’t want these embarrassingly Catholic ACs coming in.

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