Tuesday, May 20, 2008


At the name of Jesus every knee should bow
St Bernardine of Siena

Jorge preaches
On among other things obedience, the Catholic approach to which is like the one to reason, in this bit quoted by Tripp which I in part repeat, editing (sorry) to emphasise certain things:
Most often we think of obedience as submission, and perfect obedience as total, blind submission, but it... cannot be quite so simple. Obedience requires of us a triple commitment to the reality of a situation, to what we want and need, and to what others want and need. That is obedience.
Obedience is the fulfillment of real needs for real people... not imagined wants or desires, but needs. It is the fruition of the Beatitudes. That is obedience. Blessedness is obedience.
Jorge and I understand each other here:
Now, I love the Church and Church traditions. I especially love the calendar: saints’ days, ember days, rogation days, feasts, fasts, and observances of all kinds. By no means do I keep all of them, but I love that they are there.
More on the heart of the matter from Rod Dreher
In which he seems to agree that as the state already licenses things that to the church aren’t marriages what’s one more? (I say get the state out of it.) And asks the same question Paul Goings does (‘If two why not three or more then?’ ... consensual, responsible polygamists can practise their beliefs and we can ours), then seems to go palæo but repeats some excellent points.
If marriage is nothing but a social contract in the eyes of the law, on what basis does the court deny the personal autonomy of individuals who wish to establish a polygamous marriage contract?
Quoting liberal reporter John Allen on a Catholic conversion:
In 1981, [the formerly Marxist Alasdair] MacIntyre published After Virtue, in which he posed his famous choice between Niezstche and Aristotle. Either ethics is the assertion of personal preference, as Nieztsche would have it, or it corresponds to something objectively real, as Aristotle believed.

In 1983, MacIntyre converted to the Catholic Church.

Through these twists and turns, the unifying constant in MacIntyre’s thought has been hostility to the bourgeois values of liberalism. MacIntyre tends to drive secular liberals crazy, since his point of departure is the same alienation from capitalism they feel, yet he arrives in a very different place: Thomism.

MacIntyre argues that when Thomists and secularists refer to human rights, for example, they sound like they’re saying the same thing, but this linguistic resemblance conceals radically different worldviews. Secularists emphasize rights because, having rejected the idea of an objective moral order, they exalt unfettered freedom. What freedom is for gets second shrift.


[T]he anti-liberal instinct favors social causes dear to the left, such as pacifism and advocacy for the poor.

At the same time, it tends to side with the right in internal church debates. By accenting what makes Catholicism distinct, it favors traditionalism in liturgy, art and architecture, and theology. It is skeptical about the characteristic structures of liberalism, such as bureaucracy and reliance on so-called “experts.”
Robert Kraynak:
The whole Enlightenment underlay is the problem.
It was an instrument of much evil which is why I always type it here in inverted commas but I’m not chucking out classical liberalism: it stands in the great tradition with the Greeks, the Church Fathers and the Schoolmen.

Roger Kimball:
What shall we call those who occupy a position opposite that of conservatives? Not liberals, surely, since they are so often conspicuously illiberal, i.e., opposed to freedom and all its works. Indeed, when it comes to the word “liberal,” Russell Kirk came close to the truth when he observed that he was conservative because he was a liberal.
Quotation
A crucial role in shaping the future will be played by cultural conservers — individuals who choose to take on the task of learning and preserving some part of the cultural legacy of the past, and passing it on to the future.
— John Michael Greer via Joshua Snyder

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