Wednesday, July 03, 2013

Pull the US military, state and intelligence organizations from Europe entirely

The Anti-Gnostic quotes Curt Doolittle: the flip side of Roissy’s ‘Back to Europe’ movement.
I think the answer to this problem for both sides is to pull the US military, state and intelligence organizations from Europe entirely so that European defense, international relations, and the stabilization of commodity prices is left to the management of Europeans. It’s not really necessary for Americans to stabilize the price of oil, or any other commodity, now that we’re close to being energy independent. And our dollar will remain the currency of last resort even more durably if we drop our international intrigues.

That would stop the American cultural necessity for jingoism in order to preserve the cultural will to pay for the necessity that we police the world for largely European convenience. And it would allow us to save three quarters of our military expenditures, and focus our efforts on domestic reality rather than ideological propagation as a means of further discounting the cost of our policing. [It would] be nice to have a domestic government rather than an internationally focused one actually.

Conversely, it would force holier-than-thou Europeans to do all the nonsense that Americans now do and also to pay for it. Which would require the re-nationalization of European propagandism in order to motivate the already heavily taxed population to pay for.

I’m sorry that you don’t like being a client state of Rome dear Athens-after-the-overreach, but without us you’ll be a client state of either German political and economic power and cultural discipline, or Russian resources and military power.

It probably doesn’t occur to silly people on the other side of the pond that it’s because Britain was so bad at containing its self interest, rent seeking, politics and policies that Americans ended up with the entire Empire in our lap, and had to militarize our entire country quite against our naturally isolationist inclination and will.

We look like you 100 years ago. Maybe even better than you did.

As someone who has to deal with UK bureaucracy, laziness and pervasive incompetence on a regular basis I have to say that the sentiment is reciprocated. A nation of fat, ugly, crooked-toothed, self-aggrandizing, talkative alcoholics, dressed in Gap-wear, pontificating morality because they have the convenience of not being responsible for their actions — having outsourced the dirty work across the pond.

It is profoundly naive to think that nations have the degree of nationalism that they want to rather than the level of nationalism that they need to. People are too practical to waste their energy.

Glass houses and all.


  1. Anonymous3:36 pm

    Young Fogey,

    Thank you for introducing me to Curt Doolittle. Despite the fact that he resides in the city nearest me, I had not encountered his work before. He seems to make considerable sense.

    Pax et bonum,
    Keith Töpfer

  2. Amen. We need a massive rethink about American troops overseas, especially Europe. Why do we have bases in Germany? Italy? Spain? The UK? Bring the troops home, shut down the bases and let Europe be responsible for its own defense.

    Aside from it being the right thing to do, the simple fact is we can't afford it anymore.

  3. And the USA is building new bases in Poland and Romania. You probably didn't know that.


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