Friday, October 03, 2014

The church's civil war and vocations, and more

  • Illusions. The church's civil war goes on: the old liberal, anti-high church (as described by Thomas Day, very unlike Episcopalians) gatekeepers turn away vocations too interested in the past including the fathers (the old high churchmen and Tractarians would have a field day with that). I can see that changing slowly simply because the old liberals don't have young followers in the church anymore; the only vocations are conservative. You can only import priests from Africa for so long. Fr. Dale Griffith describes liberal Orthodox' new way to be anti-Western by agreeing with our liberals, and Schmemann's Jesuit schooling: The thought at the time was that they would not convert the boys to Russian rite Roman Catholicism, but that they would be the leaven for greater conversions later. Sounds like something we'd do, the liberalism perhaps unintended or a coincidence.
  • A divorced and remarried Catholic gets it. I'm sure it would be a mortal sin for me to take Communion. Accept liberal arguments for the convenience of people like me, and you threaten the foundations of the Church.
  • Ridiculous revisionism: when Orthodox converts from a Protestant culture desperately try to connect their roots to their new faith, in this case Scottish Presbyterian Canadians. (The anti-Catholic Celtic myth, take two.) By the way, we're not battling over what we believe; the magisterium can't change doctrine and isn't trying. The "one remaining liturgical stream" argument has some appeal — if you can swallow the one that Latin Catholicism's been a fraud for centuries.
  • Examination of conscience.

1 comment:

  1. "The anti-Catholic Celtic myth, take two..."

    Ugh. In Ireland, I've walked around plenty of Celtic churches and oratories built during the "dark ages". With my own eyes, I've read stone inscriptions directly and proudly attesting to the presence of visitors from Rome itself. To think that the Celtic church did not recognize the authority of Rome, you'd need to be either pig-ignorant of medieval history, or have an ulterior agenda to promote. Usually, it's both.

    It's like the myth of the Noble Savage- if you claim your ideal society exists amongst some remote tribe about whom little is known, nobody is well-informed enough to point out that you're full of s***. Well, latter-day practitioners of "Celtic Spirituality" and "Orthodox Celtic Christianity", I studied under some of Ireland's top medieval scholars, and I can unequivocally state that you are full of the aforementioned bodily waste.


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