Friday, February 17, 2017

Quick notes on religion

  • Should Roman Catholic priests be allowed to marry? Possible but I don't want to break ancient custom East and West in which the ordained don't marry. We have mostly adopted the Christian East's rule of ordaining the married for convert priests and permanent deacons. I have no problem with extending that to all diocesan seminarians but that doesn't necessarily mean we should. I don't like most of the people agitating for the change; heretics. There is a slew of practical problems with married priests. One is a family's demands on a priest's time. Another is the financial burden of supporting not only a priest but his family; how many dioceses and parishes can afford that, literally? So do the priest and his wife have to take secular jobs to stay alive, as many Orthodox priests and their wives in America have to? I've been told that the educational requirement and workload for married Continuing Anglican priests is about the same as for Roman Catholic permanent deacons. Married priests can do the work but again are we ready to pony up the cash and make the other necessary adjustments?
  • Does anyone know whether the SSPX permits married priests from the Anglican Church? The SSPX is a religious order so by definition its priest members are celibate. Good question, though: what if a married ex-Anglican priest wanted to be ordained as a priest associate but not a member? They might say no, answering that only Rome can grant that dispensation. This just in: "They are not a religious order. They are a priestly society of common life. They take no vows, wear no habit, and do not live a monastic lifestyle. Thus, they could have a married priest if certain provisions were made." I stand corrected.
  • Everything that's not doctrine should be negotiable; some things about English-speaking Catholic culture can and maybe should be dropped. Yes, learn from the Anglicans. My semi-traditionalist parish uses their hymns and has monthly coffee hour.
  • The Church of England is fighting the American fundamentalist vs. modernist war of the '20s, between their mainliners and their Evangelicals (capitalized when you're talking this Anglican faction). So thanks to the Evos they still don't officially have gay marriage but the mainliners have won a skirmish, so the C of E isn't saying now that marriage is between a man and a woman. (That this stuff even comes up for votes tells you they're not Catholic. The Episcopal Church, like current American law, now has gay marriage.) Anglo-Catholics are mainliners, long heavily homosexual and now accepting women clergy; the C of E's would-be Catholics have become Catholic (not many, and mostly priests).
  • I'll be honest: I don't have a problem with Freemasonry's original idea of gentlemen of many faiths and political views meeting in someone's home or a tavern to set aside their differences and just talk. I object to what it became, a false religion targeting the Catholic Church. At its lowest level, it seems to be a goofy fraternity for older men. It is dying out, even while its values have won in the West, just like the mainline Protestantism it largely took over (it pretty much owns Anglicanism).


  1. I do not know the situation now, but several years ago the SSPX did accept several married Ukrainian priests into the group (

    On the issue of married clergy in the Roman Catholic church; a priest is a priest, and the matter of rite is quite secondary. So, to marry or not to marry is not germane to either rite or priesthood.

    I was quite shocked to once hear a very well-educated, English, Roman Catholic priest when asked about the reality of married Roman Catholic priests (priests who had been Catholic all of their lives and were not converts), rather snidely reply, "Yes, but those are eastern rite priests." The implication was that they were neither priests or Catholics.

  2. St Jerome mentions bishops marrying - I forget where, and Christ willed that His ministers could have wives. Trads need to realise that in this, they are as bound to obey Christ as in other matters, even though they find it unpleasant.

    In other words, with regard to clerical marriage, they have to put their money where their mouths are and do God's will rather than their own. The purported "law" of celibacy has contributed enormously to the church's problems, although it is far from being the sole cause of its present predicament. It is also sometimes a cause of spiritual pride.


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